Departmental bunfight in Ireland over 1864-1870 death records?

I commented the following on the Irish Government's Department of Culture, Communications and Sport's Facebook page yesterday (https://www.facebook.com/DeptCultureCommsSport):

"What about the 1864-1870 death records? Sporadic death indexes, absolutely no images. Come on lads, it can't be that difficult to put them online!"

And I received a response:

"This week’s release includes the annual update of records, adding an additional year of civil records to the website. The Irish Genealogy website now provides access to Civil birth records from 1864–1925, marriage records from 1845–1950, and death records from 1864–1975.

 

"Please note that while death records from 1864–1970 are indexed on the website, the associated images are not yet available. These images remain with the General Register Office (GRO). The Department has informed the GRO that we will prioritise uploading these records to the Irish Genealogy website as soon as they are provided."

 

First of all, the indexes are absolutely not complete for death records from 1864-1870. But secondly, have we been unable to see this small group of records for all this time because one Irish governmental department is simply not collaborating with another? 

 

I'll repeat the last line again: 

 

"Come on lads, it can't be that difficult to put them online!" 

 

Chris 

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Annual update for IrishGenealogy.ie - but still no 1864-1870 death records

The IrishGenealogy.ie platform (www.irishgenealogy.ie) has received its annual update of vital records, meaning that biorth records from 1925, marriages from 1950, and deaths from 1975 can now be viewed online free of charge. 

Please note that these are for records in what is now the Irish republic - for Northern Ireland, the equivalent records can be found at the pay-per-view GRONI website at https://geni.nidirect.gov.uk (note this site has an ongoing weekly update of records to reflect the same closure periods of 100 years for births, 75 years for marriages, and 50 years for deaths).

In what is now becoming a well-established IrishGenealogy.ie tradition, there is still absolutely no news as to why the death records from 1864-1870 continue to remain inaccessible on this platform. Will they have to kill us if they release them, are they really so top secret?! Note that death records for the six Northern Irish counties from this same period are available on the northern GRO site, there's absolutely nothing remarkable about them!

Chris 

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New IrishGenealogy.ie website on the way

From the Irish Government, news concerning the IrishGenealogy portal at www.irishgenealogy.ie:

A new Irish Genealogy website is under construction, as a result, some services are currently unavailable. The Civil and Church Records search portals remain available.

You can order birth, marriage and death certificates from the General Register Office via www.gov.ie/en/service/124a70-apply-for-certificates.

If you wish to contact the Irish Genealogy team please email: Genealogy@tcagsm.gov.ie.

We apologise for any inconvenience.

Chris

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IrishGenealogy.ie adds an extra year of free civil registration records

The Irish site offering free access to civil registration records, www.irishgenealogy.ie, has added an extra year's worth of records - you can now access birth records from 1922 (the first full years after Partition), marriages for 1947, and deaths from 1972.

The coverage available on the site is now:

• Births: 1864-1922
• Marriages: 1845-1947
• Deaths: 1871-1972*

(*Deaths from 1864-1870 have yet to be released)

Some things to note:

Record images are sourced from the registers held in Dublin, which are separate copies to those held in Belfast. In my new book, Tracing Your Belfast Ancestors, I show how occasionally there are discrepancies between the two sets of records.

Coverage on the site for Northern Ireland (Antrim, Down, Armagh, Fermanagh, Tyrone, Londonderry) is only up to the point of Partition, i.e. 1921. For post-1921 Northern Irish records, visit the pay-per-view site https://geni.nidirect.gov.uk.

Chris

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Problems accessing IrishGenealogy.ie

I noticed on Friday that there has been a problem with regards to accessing the Irish Genealogy website via its home page at www.irishgenealogy.ie, with a message popping up saying "Error displaying the error page: Call to a member function findNode() on null: Component not found.".  I had hoped it was a temporary glitch, but it is still displaying the same message today.

However, you can still access the civil registration records on the platform by visiting the direct section at https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/civil-search.jsp, and the church records on the site at https://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/.

Hopefully the front page will be repaired soon.

 

(With thanks to Maeve Rogan via Twitter for the tip on the workaround!)

Chris

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