Showing posts with label NRS. Show all posts
Showing posts with label NRS. Show all posts

Friday, 17 July 2026

National Records of Scotland prepares to raise ScotlandsPeople fees

The National Records of Scotland has launched a 'consultation' to ask folk if it agrees with its proposed plans to raise fees for seemingly everything connected with ScotlandsPeople. The proposed increases will see records fees go from £1.50 per record (6 credits) to £2.50 per record (10 credits), and to increase the daily research pass from the current £15 to £23. The minimum bundle of ScotlandsPeople credits is also proposed to go from 30 credits (£7.50) to 50 credits (£12.50). The full details of the plans are available at https://www.nrscotland.gov.uk/publications/registration-services-fees-consultation-paper/, and you are invited to have your say. 

Going on previous consultations, I personally think the decision has already been made, and that this is just an opportunity for folk to express their objections before the plans are implemented, to reduce the shock value. As such, I haven't bothered to fill it in myself, because life is too short, and I know from many years of experience how little the NRS seemingly values its user base. Whilst the fact that the fees have not been raised in ten years may be true, there is a real insensitivity here to the cost of living pressures just now. 

Chris 

Order Researching Ancestral Crisis in Ireland in the UK at https://bit.ly/4jJWSEh. Also available -Tracing Your Belfast Ancestors, Tracing Your Irish Ancestors Through Land Records, Sharing Your Family History Online, Tracing Your Scottish Family History on the Internet, Tracing Your Irish Family History on the Internet (2nd ed), and Tracing Your Scottish Ancestry Through Church and State Records - to purchase, please visit https://bit.ly/ChrisPatonPSbooks. To purchase in the USA visit https://www.penandswordbooks.com. Further news published daily on The Scottish GENES Facebook page.

Saturday, 13 June 2026

No ScotlandsPeople, no party! Closure for world cup bank holiday.

From ScotlandsPeople and the National Records of Scotland (www.nrscotland.gov.uk): 

Please note that our buildings will be closed for the public holiday on Monday 15 June. We will be open as normal the following day, Tuesday 16 June. 

As they say here in world cup times, no ScotlandsPeople, no party....!


Chris 

Order Researching Ancestral Crisis in Ireland in the UK at https://bit.ly/4jJWSEh. Also available -Tracing Your Belfast Ancestors, Tracing Your Irish Ancestors Through Land Records, Sharing Your Family History Online, Tracing Your Scottish Family History on the Internet, Tracing Your Irish Family History on the Internet (2nd ed), and Tracing Your Scottish Ancestry Through Church and State Records - to purchase, please visit https://bit.ly/ChrisPatonPSbooks. To purchase in the USA visit https://www.penandswordbooks.com. Further news published daily on The Scottish GENES Facebook page.

Sunday, 24 May 2026

National Records of Scotland services videos released

The National Records of Scotland (www.nrscotland.gov.uk) has released two new videos showcasing its services. 

You can view the first at https://youtu.be/3-r86Ok8_Jw?si=3p8G-GkfH2uIE7Bi, or embedded below.

The second vudeo, about ScotlandsPeople, is at https://youtu.be/TRpIVSeoIjs?si=NTPJ9T10RnyBhIub , and also embedded below for convenience: 

The NRS post announcing these new videos is available at https://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/news-and-articles/new-videos-showcasing-scotlands-people-services

Chris 

Order Researching Ancestral Crisis in Ireland in the UK at https://bit.ly/4jJWSEh. Also available -Tracing Your Belfast Ancestors, Tracing Your Irish Ancestors Through Land Records, Sharing Your Family History Online, Tracing Your Scottish Family History on the Internet, Tracing Your Irish Family History on the Internet (2nd ed), and Tracing Your Scottish Ancestry Through Church and State Records - to purchase, please visit https://bit.ly/ChrisPatonPSbooks. To purchase in the USA visit https://www.penandswordbooks.com. Further news published daily on The Scottish GENES Facebook page.

Sunday, 29 March 2026

Easter - certificate ordering disruption from ScotlandsPeople

From ScotlandsPeople (www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk):

Please note: Certificate Priority Ordering will be unavailable from 1 p.m. on Thursday 2nd April 2026 with all Certificate Ordering unavailable from 4 p.m. on Thursday 2nd April 2026.

All Certificate Ordering will re-commence from 9 a.m. Tuesday 7th April 2026.

Chris 

Order Researching Ancestral Crisis in Ireland in the UK at https://bit.ly/4jJWSEh. Also available -Tracing Your Belfast Ancestors, Tracing Your Irish Ancestors Through Land Records, Sharing Your Family History Online, Tracing Your Scottish Family History on the Internet, Tracing Your Irish Family History on the Internet (2nd ed), and Tracing Your Scottish Ancestry Through Church and State Records - to purchase, please visit https://bit.ly/ChrisPatonPSbooks. To purchase in the USA visit https://www.penandswordbooks.com. Further news published daily on The Scottish GENES Facebook page.

Saturday, 28 March 2026

Easter closures for the NRS and PRONI

The National Records of Scotland (www.nrscotland.gov.uk) and the ScotlandsPeople Centre in Edinburgh will be closed on Friday 3 April and Monday 6 April for Easter.  

Belfast based PRONI (https://www.nidirect.gov.uk/campaigns/public-record-office-northern-ireland-proni), however, will be closed on Monday 6 April and Tuesday 7 April for Easter, as well as on Saturday 4 April as part of the Easter holidays. Their extended opening hours will resume with a late-night opening on Thursday 16 April.
 
Please take note, no-one likes to make a long journey only to find the door closed! 
 
 
Chris 

Order Researching Ancestral Crisis in Ireland in the UK at https://bit.ly/4jJWSEh. Also available -Tracing Your Belfast Ancestors, Tracing Your Irish Ancestors Through Land Records, Sharing Your Family History Online, Tracing Your Scottish Family History on the Internet, Tracing Your Irish Family History on the Internet (2nd ed), and Tracing Your Scottish Ancestry Through Church and State Records - to purchase, please visit https://bit.ly/ChrisPatonPSbooks. To purchase in the USA visit https://www.penandswordbooks.com. Further news published daily on The Scottish GENES Facebook page.

Thursday, 12 March 2026

Scottish Indexes uploads additional prison records

Scottish Indexes (www.scottishindexes.com) has released a further 100,000 prison records held at the National Records of Scotland, bringing the total to 1 million entries in its Scotland's Criminal Database, with records from 49 prisons included. 

The following are the prisons for which new records have been added: 

  • Linlithgow
  • Stonehaven
  • Ayr
  • Greenock
  • Cumnock
  • Kinross
  • Customs & Excise
  • Paisley
  • Port Glasgow
  • Hamilton
  • Inveraray
  • Kilmarnock
  • Duke Street (Glasgow)

To access the database visit https://www.scottishindexes.com/ScotlandsCriminalDatabase.aspx.

Chris 

Order Researching Ancestral Crisis in Ireland in the UK at https://bit.ly/4jJWSEh. Also available -Tracing Your Belfast Ancestors, Tracing Your Irish Ancestors Through Land Records, Sharing Your Family History Online, Tracing Your Scottish Family History on the Internet, Tracing Your Irish Family History on the Internet (2nd ed), and Tracing Your Scottish Ancestry Through Church and State Records - to purchase, please visit https://bit.ly/ChrisPatonPSbooks. To purchase in the USA visit https://www.penandswordbooks.com. Further news published daily on The Scottish GENES Facebook page.

National Records of Scotland Strategy 2025/26-2030/31

The National Records of Scotland (www.nrscotland.gov.uk) has released its National Records of Scotland Strategy 2025/26-2030/31, an eighteen page document detailing some changes it hopes to put in place over the next five years. Being a government document it has a lot of really dull corporate back-slapping speak within it, but amongst all of that are some details that may be of interest to users of its archive and digital services. The following are some of these, with occasional comments from me:

On recent performance (p.6):

  • Our Scotland’s People service has a global reach of 1.3 million customers, helping people access information and records.
  • In 2024-25 we hosted nearly 5000 visits to our historical search room with over 15,000 physical items produced.


Why are we changing? (p.9)

  • Our archive services require significant transformation to operate in the digital age and to once again accept paper records from Scotland’s public bodies.
  • Customer feedback shows a desire for improved in-person experiences in our buildings. We want to make our services more inclusive, increase accessibility to our records, expand our reach, engage with new audiences and maximise opportunities for income generation.

(Interesting wording - did they stop taking paper records from Scottish public bodies?)

 

Strategic Objectives (p.10)

  • Meet the future needs of the national archive by investing in digital preservation and securing long-term storage capacity.
  • General Register House to become a destination space for customers that connects people to Scotland’s rich past and present through our archives, records and statistics.
  • Representing all of Scotland’s people by ensuring our information, services and collections, and those of the wider Scottish record keeping community, are inclusive.


What will these changes mean? (p.11):
 

There are a few points raised here, this is the key one:

  • Customers can access a complete national archive available in-person and, increasingly, online.

The biggest problem for researchers is off-site storage. The continued usage of General Register House's Historic Search Room as the archive access point is ridiculously problematic, with limits on what can be consulted in a day, and with what is available on-site in the first place. Online access is great, but absolutely no substitute for the records that will never be digitised.
 

Our services uphold democratic rights and enable people to participate in society (p.14)

On this page is the following interesting entry:

  • NHS Central Register service transition
  • Efficiencies in the delivery of the NHSCR service through digital system improvements

The NHS Central Register is essentially the information used for requests from the 1939 National Identify Register for Scotland, which is the most expensive version of this resource to access in the UK (it's free in NI, and the English and Welsh returns are available on various subscription data sites). If efficiencies are to be delivered, will the £15 search fee per each record be reduced? Why not digitise the 1939 register as a 1941 census substitute, for delivery in 2041? (This could be done at the same time as the 1931 census to save money.)

And then on p.17:
To keep delivering our services, we need to be financially sustainable and make the best use of public resources. We have a responsibility to look after our historic and archival buildings. With rising costs, we also need to do our part to protect the environment. That means we must work in new and better ways. 

The responsibility to look after historic buildings is a millstone around the NRS's neck. New Register House may be pretty to look at, but most people go there to look at records, not bricks and plaster. Edinburgh and Scotland needs a modern national archive facility, as currently enjoyed in London (Kew) and Belfast by the UK's other national archives. 

The full report is freely accessible at https://www.nrscotland.gov.uk/media/qjbnvpbu/national-records-of-scotland-strategy-2025-26-2030-31.pdf

Chris 

Order Researching Ancestral Crisis in Ireland in the UK at https://bit.ly/4jJWSEh. Also available -Tracing Your Belfast Ancestors, Tracing Your Irish Ancestors Through Land Records, Sharing Your Family History Online, Tracing Your Scottish Family History on the Internet, Tracing Your Irish Family History on the Internet (2nd ed), and Tracing Your Scottish Ancestry Through Church and State Records - to purchase, please visit https://bit.ly/ChrisPatonPSbooks. To purchase in the USA visit https://www.penandswordbooks.com. Further news published daily on The Scottish GENES Facebook page.

Tuesday, 17 February 2026

Research Guides section updated on National Records of Scotland website

I'm not sure when this happened, it is possible that it happened in late November/early December and I hadn't yet picked up on it,  but the National Records of Scotland (www.nrscotland.gov.uk) has now updated its Research Guides interface on its website, which thankfully means we are no longer redirected to cached copies of the guides in the site's web archive (although the historic guides remain accessible there). The Research Guides page is available at https://nrscotland.gov.uk/learning-and-events/research-guides/ (found under the Records and Archives tab of the main homepage menu).


A quick search on the web archive shows that in 2020 there were 59 guides available, but the new Research Guides section now has 86 guides available, although this is likely because guides that were embedded within other topics now have their own standalone page - for examples, the Census Records page on the old site had individual guides to each census from 1841-1921, but these are now shown as individual guides in their own right on the new guides index. I have checked a small number of guides which suggest that they have not been rewritten, although the guides themselves are stamped as having been updated 28 November 2025, so it is possible there may have been some rewrites on some of them.  

Some guides may have been removed entirely from the guides section and given their own page on the NRS site. The one concrete example I have found concerns the pages dealing with National Registration, and the 1939 National Identity Register, the emergency wartime census carried out in September 1939, just two weeks into the Second World War. This page is no longer found in the Research Guides section, but is instead located on a new dedicated page in the Statistics and Data section of the NRS website, on a new page entitled NHS Central Register, at https://nrscotland.gov.uk/statistics-and-data/nhs-central-register/#. To access the application form for the 1939 National Identity Register you need to scroll to the bottom of this new page. If anyone has come across other examples of things that may have been relocated, I'd be grateful for details!

It's great to see this finally addressed, the web archive access looked very amateurish beforehand, and it was a nightmare having to use the long URL address to access guides within this. Of course, that does mean that some of us will have to recreate links to the new guides again within presentations and articles, but it at least looks fit for purpose now!

Chris 

Order Researching Ancestral Crisis in Ireland in the UK at https://bit.ly/4jJWSEh. Also available -Tracing Your Belfast Ancestors, Tracing Your Irish Ancestors Through Land Records, Sharing Your Family History Online, Tracing Your Scottish Family History on the Internet, Tracing Your Irish Family History on the Internet (2nd ed), and Tracing Your Scottish Ancestry Through Church and State Records - to purchase, please visit https://bit.ly/ChrisPatonPSbooks. To purchase in the USA visit https://www.penandswordbooks.com. Further news published daily on The Scottish GENES Facebook page.

Thursday, 8 January 2026

ScotlandsPeople adds 290,000 new records in annual update

ScotlandsPeople has performed its annual civil registration records update, with birth records from 1925, marriages from 1950, and deaths from 1975 now searchable on the platform.

In addition the site has added 1,800 new cards to the Scottish Women's Land Army and Timber Corps records for ‘Land Girls’ who were born in 1925, as well as coats of arms registered in 1925. 

In total some 239,000 records have been added.

It will be interesting to see if the wills database will be updated at some point in the near future, with the current online cut off remaining at 1925.

To view the records visit www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk

(With thanks to ScotlandsPeople via email) 

 

Chris  

Order Researching Ancestral Crisis in Ireland in the UK at https://bit.ly/4jJWSEh. Also available -Tracing Your Belfast Ancestors, Tracing Your Irish Ancestors Through Land Records, Sharing Your Family History Online, Tracing Your Scottish Family History on the Internet, Tracing Your Irish Family History on the Internet (2nd ed), and Tracing Your Scottish Ancestry Through Church and State Records - to purchase, please visit https://bit.ly/ChrisPatonPSbooks. To purchase in the USA visit https://www.penandswordbooks.com. Further news published daily on The Scottish GENES Facebook page.

Tuesday, 6 January 2026

ScotlandsPeople adds new records from 2010

No, it's sadly not the update that you've been waiting for!

ScotlandsPeople, now described by the National Records of Scotland as a 'historical research website', has added Scottish Cabinet records from the year 2010, accessible via its Virtual Volumes section at https://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/virtual-volumes/cabinet-papers-search.

You can read more about the release at https://www.nrscotland.gov.uk/latest-news/2010-cabinet-records-released-online/.

Have fun! 

Chris 

Order Researching Ancestral Crisis in Ireland in the UK at https://bit.ly/4jJWSEh. Also available -Tracing Your Belfast Ancestors, Tracing Your Irish Ancestors Through Land Records, Sharing Your Family History Online, Tracing Your Scottish Family History on the Internet, Tracing Your Irish Family History on the Internet (2nd ed), and Tracing Your Scottish Ancestry Through Church and State Records - to purchase, please visit https://bit.ly/ChrisPatonPSbooks. To purchase in the USA visit https://www.penandswordbooks.com. Further news published daily on The Scottish GENES Facebook page.

Sunday, 4 January 2026

ScotlandsPeople hints at its 2026 online records releases

ScotlandsPeople (www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk) has given a hint on its Facebook page (https://www.facebook.com/ScotlandsPeople) about some forthcoming records releases this year:

"Keep your eyes peeled for the annual release of birth, death and marriage records, coming in January.
You’ll also be able to browse new Scottish Women's Land Army records and, later in the year, we'll add new prison registers and church court records."


Chris 

Order Researching Ancestral Crisis in Ireland in the UK at https://bit.ly/4jJWSEh. Also available -Tracing Your Belfast Ancestors, Tracing Your Irish Ancestors Through Land Records, Sharing Your Family History Online, Tracing Your Scottish Family History on the Internet, Tracing Your Irish Family History on the Internet (2nd ed), and Tracing Your Scottish Ancestry Through Church and State Records - to purchase, please visit https://bit.ly/ChrisPatonPSbooks. To purchase in the USA visit https://www.penandswordbooks.com. Further news published daily on The Scottish GENES Facebook page.

Saturday, 20 December 2025

ScotlandsPeople uncovers Christmassy names in the records

ScotlandsPeople (www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk) has published a festive article entitled Santa Baby Found in Scotland's Historical Records, noting various Christmassy themed names found by staff members in the archival collections of the National Records of Scotland. 

To read the article visit https://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/news-and-articles/santa-baby-found-scotlands-history-books.

Chris 

Order Researching Ancestral Crisis in Ireland in the UK at https://bit.ly/4jJWSEh. Also available -Tracing Your Belfast Ancestors, Tracing Your Irish Ancestors Through Land Records, Sharing Your Family History Online, Tracing Your Scottish Family History on the Internet, Tracing Your Irish Family History on the Internet (2nd ed), and Tracing Your Scottish Ancestry Through Church and State Records - to purchase, please visit https://bit.ly/ChrisPatonPSbooks. To purchase in the USA visit https://www.penandswordbooks.com. Further news published daily on The Scottish GENES Facebook page.

Friday, 14 November 2025

Scottish Register of Tartan fees to be increased from January 19th 2026

As previously mentioned in this blog last month, the NRS had been considering raising various fees connected with the Scottish Register of Tartans (see 'Recommendation for Scottish Register of Tartans fees to be substantially increased' https://scottishgenes.blogspot.com/2025/10/scottish-register-of-tartans-fees-to-be.html), following a recent consultation.

It has now confirmed that the proposed rise in fees will take place from January 19th 2026. 

For more on the story visit https://nrscotland.gov.uk/latest-news/scottish-register-of-tartans/.

Chris 

Order Researching Ancestral Crisis in Ireland in the UK at https://bit.ly/4jJWSEh. Also available -Tracing Your Belfast Ancestors, Tracing Your Irish Ancestors Through Land Records, Sharing Your Family History Online, Tracing Your Scottish Family History on the Internet, Tracing Your Irish Family History on the Internet (2nd ed), and Tracing Your Scottish Ancestry Through Church and State Records - to purchase, please visit https://bit.ly/ChrisPatonPSbooks. For purchase in the USA visit https://www.penandswordbooks.com. Further news published daily on The Scottish GENES Facebook page.

Monday, 13 October 2025

Is the National Records of Scotland anti-Gaelic?

A couple of years ago I asked the National Records of Scotland (www.nrscotland.gov.uk) via one of its social media platforms what it was doing by way of a Gaelic Language Plan, a document that outlines how organisations and public bodies will help to promote and use the Scottish Gaelic language (Gàidhlig), in line with requirements set out by the Gaelic Language (Scotland) Act 2005 (see https://scottishgenes.blogspot.com/2023/03/how-is-national-records-of-scotland.html). To give examples of such plans, my local authority here in East Ayrshire has a Gaelic Language Plan available at https://www.east-ayrshire.gov.uk/Resources/PDF/G/gaelic-language-plan.pdf, whilst the National Library of Scotland has one available at https://www.nls.uk/about-us/plans-and-policies/corporate-documents/. Such plans show how Gaelic can be catered for on a range of issues, none of which take away from the bodies' responsibilities to deliver services in English.

The response that I got from the NRS was that "Gaelic culture has an important place in our archive", and to demonstrate this, it pointed to a page on its website at the time describing the events of the Declaration of Arbroath. It then mentioned they also had a page about the Iolaire disaster in 1919. And that was it! There was nothing on its website about how the organisation might field enquiries from Gaelic speakers, nothing about how the language can be made more visible at the institution, nothing about resources that might be available at the archive to assist with researching Gaelic Scotland, and crucially, absolutely no sign of a Gaelic Language Plan, or evidence of how the institution is complying with such a plan if one exists. 

The only other time I can point to the NRS having a connection with Gaelic is the work of the recent censuses. The 2022 census was made available bilingually, and there has been analysis of the question on Gaelic speakers subsequently carried out - as per the requirements and instructions of the Scottish Parliament, its parent agency. The 2022 census showed a remarkable turnaround for the language with an increase in the number of current speakers (albeit with a continuing fall in the Western Isles), ending years of decline. 

Earlier this year, both the Gaelic and the Scots languages were granted official status in the country through the Scottish Languages Bill, which came into effect in July. The purpose of this act was to seek the protection of, and promotion of, these languages in public life and in education. As part of a talk I am preparing to give next week, I decided to check if anything had changed at the NRS via its recently updated website. A search of 'Gaelic' produced just five results, including the Arbroath piece, and an item telling the story of Angus McPhee from Benbecula who ended up in a lunatic asylum in Perth after killing his parents on the island. The Iolaire piece is no longer found there, but can be found deep in its web archive at https://webarchive.nrscotland.gov.uk/20210917045704/https://www.nrscotland.gov.uk/node/3171.

This is just woeful, and completely not in keeping with the spirit of the Gaelic Language (Scotland) Act 2005 and the 2025 Scottish Languages Bill.

So some questions for the NRS. 

  • Do you have a Gaelic Language Plan? If so, where can it be viewed?
  • If not, are you bound through some other Scottish Government agency to conform to a Gaelic Language Plan?
  • If you are not subject to the requirements of a Gaelic Language Plan, why is this the case? 
  • Are you in the midst of creating a Gaelic Language Plan (and if so, when will this be published)? 
  • Are you opposed to the visibility of Gaelic at your institution?
  • And following on from the 2025 act, how will you also cater for the Scots language at your institution?

It is a mark of how completely untransparent the NRS is with the Gaelic language that I cannot even state what the modern Gaelic for the archive is - is it, for example, Tasglann Nàiseanta na h-Alba (National Archive of Scotland), Clàran Nàiseanta na h-Alba (National Records of Scotland), or something else? By contrast, the National Library of Scotland proudly displays its Gaelic equivalent on its website's home page - Leabharlann Nàiseanta na h-Alba - and the world didn't end when it decided to do so.

There are many things I would love to see in Scotland that go beyond what the NRS can do in its day to day work, which cannot be changed without additional parliamentary action, for example the right to record births, marriages and deaths in English, Gaelic or Scots, and not just in English (as was recently catered for in Northern Ireland in 2022 with regards to the Irish language). It is bizarre that a marriage ceremony, for example, can be carried out in Gaelic or Scots, but the record of the event must be in English.  

But there are many things that the NRS can do to promote the use of Gaelic in its work. The NRS is a horrendously institutionalised body that cannot see beyond the borders of Edinburgh city centre. It is time to reflect the diversity of Scotland, and that includes obligations on the use of Gaelic (and Scots) in its work.  

Update: A search has revealed that the NRS does not have its own Gaelic Language Plan, but apparently is bound by the National Gaelic Language Plan 2023-2028 as set out by Bòrd na Gàidhlig and the Scottish Government. So where and how is this being implemented by the NRS?

Chris 

Order Researching Ancestral Crisis in Ireland in the UK at https://bit.ly/4jJWSEh. Also available -Tracing Your Belfast Ancestors, Tracing Your Irish Ancestors Through Land Records, Sharing Your Family History Online, Tracing Your Scottish Family History on the Internet, Tracing Your Irish Family History on the Internet (2nd ed), and Tracing Your Scottish Ancestry Through Church and State Records - to purchase, please visit https://bit.ly/ChrisPatonPSbooks. For purchase in tthe USA visit https://www.penandswordbooks.com. Further news published daily on The Scottish GENES Facebook page.

Friday, 10 October 2025

National Records of Scotland Customer Advisory Panel meeting

The National Records of Scotland (www.nrscotland.gov.uk) has recently had its first Customary Advisory Panel meeting, for which Emma Maxwell from Scottish Indexes (www.scottishindexes.com) has kindly written up a brief summary of proceedings at https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/national-records-scotland-listening-responding-emma-maxwell-euzwe/, as one of the attendees. I am unclear if the NRS will be publishing minutes from the meeting, although to its credit minutes from various other meetings are available to read in its Publications section at https://www.nrscotland.gov.uk/publications/, the last being from a meeting in June 2025 - if so, I will share the link in due course.

Emma's post discusses how the NRS believes it not to be a "secretive organisation" and that it "wants to develop a clear strategy for change", one aspect of which is Emma's ability to actually report on the proceedings, which is definitely progressive. Following a recent survey of users carried out by Emma through her Scottish Indexes platforms, she raised the problems experienced by people turning up at the NRS's Historic Search Room without the relevant documentation to register, as well as other user issues. 

As it evolves it will be interesting to see how the remit of this new panel differs from the previous ScotlandsPeople User Group. As a user of historic records, I would be particularly interested to know what new records are being acquired by the archive, what is being catalogued, what is being digitised, what conservation issues might be underway with particular records, if there are any issues with the infrastructure preventing access to particular collections, and what partnerships the NRS might be undertaking to take its remit beyond Edinburgh. 

Fingers crossed NRS has indeed crossed into a new more open era!

* Don't forget that the next free-to-attend Scottish Indexes Conference will take on Saturday 22 November - details via the team's website.

(With thanks to Emma Maxwell) 

Chris 

Order Researching Ancestral Crisis in Ireland in the UK at https://bit.ly/4jJWSEh. Also available -Tracing Your Belfast Ancestors, Tracing Your Irish Ancestors Through Land Records, Sharing Your Family History Online, Tracing Your Scottish Family History on the Internet, Tracing Your Irish Family History on the Internet (2nd ed), and Tracing Your Scottish Ancestry Through Church and State Records - to purchase, please visit https://bit.ly/ChrisPatonPSbooks. For purchase in tthe USA visit https://www.penandswordbooks.com. Further news published daily on The Scottish GENES Facebook page.

Tuesday, 30 September 2025

More on the legal proceedings by Ancestry against the National Records of Scotland

On Friday 26th September I blogged a piece about the legal challenge by Ancestry (www.ancestry.com) to try to force the National Records of Scotland (www.nrscotland.gov.uk) to grant it access to many of the records available on ScotlandsPeople (see Ancestry and the NRS - When the Corporate Genealogy World Turns Ugly https://scottishgenes.blogspot.com/2025/09/ancestry-and-nrs-when-corporate.html). It's the most read blog post on this site in over a year, and indeed commented on, so thanks to all who have taken the time to do so.

I have now had a chance to read the legal arguments and judgment over the case from Judge Foss of the General Regulatory Chamber in London, published on September 10th 2025, which you can find at https://caselaw.nationalarchives.gov.uk/ukftt/grc/2025/1088. It took me an hour and half to plough through, and there is a lot of legalese within it! But it is an interesting document for many reasons, not just with regards to the issues at point themselves, but with regards to some background information concerning the NRS in recent years, as well as Ancestry's extraordinary points made whilst contesting the case. I'll summarise some of these, and include the relevant paragraph numbers in the submission in brackets where relevant, should you wish to read more on them.

Ancestry is seeking to be granted access to NRS digital records and indexes on the basis of the Open Government Licence v3, as facilitated by the Re-use of Public Sector Information (RPSI) Regulations 2015, “to grant a worldwide, royalty-free, perpetual, non-exclusive licence to: copy, publish, distribute and transmit the relevant information; adapt the information; and exploit the information commercially and non-commercially for example, by combining it with other information or by including it in the licensee’s own product or application” (para 14). The records sought are:

  • Scottish Census Records 1841-1911
  • Statutory (Civil Registers): Births (1855 – 1921), Marriages (1855 – 1946) and Deaths (1855 – 1971)
  • Old Parochial Registers: Births and Baptisms (1538-1854), Banns and Marriages (1538-1854), Deaths and Burials (1538 to 1854)
  • Low Churches/Dissenters Parish: Births and Baptisms (1746-1921), Banns and Marriages (1746-1946), Deaths and Burials (1746-1971)
  • Valuation Rolls (1855-1940)
  • Wills: Wills & Testaments (1513-1925), Soldiers’ Wills (1857-1965)
  • Prison Registers (1867-1879)
  • Photographs: images taken from medieval documents and photographs (18th and 19th century)
  • Public Register of All Arms and Bearings in Scotland: Coats of Arms (1672-1921)
  • Military Service Appeals Tribunal records (1916-1918).

Ancestry later added the 1921 Scottish census to this wish-list. It noted that all of the information requested is to be “re-used” to “carry out genealogical research as part of (its) genealogy technology offering” (para 16) I've put "re-use" in inverted commas for a reason, as it is fundamental to what is going on here.

The NRS refused Ancestry's approach on 2 December 2022. Ancestry lodged a complaint with the NRS on 4 May 2023, stating that it failed to comply with the RPSI (para 20). Amongst the complaints made was that the NRS was being discriminatory with regards to its interpretation of the RPSI, not least because it had already previously provided access to records for FamilySearch. NRS had also claimed some of the records had third party intellectual property rights, i.e. it didn't have the sole right to grant access to them; Ancestry asked for a clarification on this (the NRS and Ancestry later agreed a revised list on this basis for the ongoing proceedings).

The NRS rejected Ancestry's complaint on 21 June 2023, stating that any arrangements it had with other parties were not exclusive, and that even if there had been such arrangements, this didn't mean that it had to make information similarly available to other parties (it was also pointed out in later proceedings that the agreements with FamilySearch preceded the RPSI legislation, some of it from 64 years ago - see below).

NRS also said that Ancestry's attempts to justify a “re-use” of the info were not based on how that term has been defined in the relevant RPSI legislations from 2005 and 2015, which is defined as “for a purpose other than the initial purpose within that public sector body's public task for which the document was produced”. It noted that Ancestry's intent for the material was not for a purpose “other than the initial purpose within [NRS’s] public task [to collect, preserve and produce information about Scotland's people and history and make it available to inform current and future generations], for which [it] was produced” (para 28). Bottom line, it was alleging that Ancestry wanted the info for the same reason that the NRS was using it, so it wasn't a “re-use”.

Ancestry appealed to the Information Commissioner on 2 August 2023. In 2024 submissions were made to the Commissioner by both Ancestry and the NRS (paras 29-32). The Commissioner found in favour of the NRS, although the Tribunal was later criticial that a lot of reasoning for this was not expanded upon in the decision notice.

On the back of this Ancestry appealed the Commissioner's findings on 28 May 2024 at a Tribunal of the General Regulatory Chamber (https://www.gov.uk/courts-tribunals/first-tier-tribunal-general-regulatory-chamber) in London, a UK body which decides appeals from regulatory bodies across a diverse range of jurisdictions. Ancestry claimed that the NRS's refusal was unlawful, not least because it stated that the NRS had not interpreted RPSI correctly, that the NRS did not adhere to Guidance on the implementation of the Re-use of Public Sector Information Regulations 2015, published by The National Archives (i.e. TNA, based in England), and that it had entered previously into an exclusive arrangement with FamilySearch.

There is then a LENGTHY (it took me an hour to read!) analysis of the legal arguments involved from Ancestry, the NRS and the Information Commissioner, as well as the Tribunal's own team. Along the way, there was a discussion on the definition and validity of the use of the term “re-use” by the RPSI, the NRS's relationship in the past with FamilySearch, the NRS's reliance on finances from ScotlandsPeople, and much more.

Appearing as witnesses for the NRS were Dr. Janet Egdell, who at the time of her appearance was Interim Chief Executive of NRS (Registrar General and Keeper of the Records of Scotland) and Linda Sinclair, Director of Corporate Services and Accountable Officer at NRS. For Ancestry, Quinton Atkinson, Senior Director of Global Content Acquisition, made an appearance as a witness. Ancestry detailed its case in paras 77-85, the NRS from paras 86-101.

There were some interesting points discussed.

  • NRS, for example, pointed out that Ancestry has had access to TNA and GRO records from England and Wales, but with the GRO records it only has the indexes, whilst its access to census records was partly as a result of Ancestry investing in their digitisation in partnership with TNA; this contrasts with Ancestry's demands for the statutory BMD records and censuses from Scotland.

  • Ancestry did say that it could compensate NRS for access to the records, but did not quantify by how much, nor how this could be calculated.

  • NRS also noted that it could lose £3.7 million a year in revenue (based on the average income over the last six years), although it did admit that it had not calculated how this might be offset by any income from Ancestry if  access was granted. However, NRS did also note that there would be significant additional costs to it if Ancestry was successful, not just in staffing costs for the initial transfer of the records, but also on an ongoing basis, for example with annual updates of records releases.

 

Paragraphs 89-91 provide some interesting details on recent ScotlandsPeople activity:

89. We were shown NRS’s audited financial statements for the year ended 31 March 2024... The statements indicate that in 2023-2024, NRS had 993,000 users on ScotlandsPeople (1,484,852 in 2022-2023), resulting in a total of 7,094,000 sessions and 85,000,000 page views, and that NRS had added around 300,000 new images to the records available on ScotlandsPeople (385,000 in 2022-2023).

90. Ms Sinclair explained that NRS is funded by the Scottish Government and by the income generated from ScotlandsPeople, the latter intended to be reinvested in the delivery of public services. She demonstrated by reference to NRS’s 31 March 2024 financial statements that in that financial period, NRS had suffered a shortfall of £0.6 million; the difference between income of £4.361 million deriving from charges set by secondary legislation for accessing the information on ScotlandsPeople, and the operational cost of ScotlandsPeople in the sum of £4.994 million.

91. The comparable figures for the year ended 31 March 2023 were income received of £5.129 million and operational cost of £4.782 million, delivering a surplus of £347,000.


This in part helps to explain why NRS believes Ancestry's bid is hostile to its future public sector purpose and revenue raising (although the Tribunal responded that NRS's claims that it could lose £3.7 million a year were hypothetical, as no real modelling had been carried out into this number, or any impact if Ancestry was successful in its bid). NRS also noted that its recent move of its material from its own domestic servers to cloud based storage (which caused all sorts of grief for users when it first occurred) cost the archive £560,000 to implement, and took 11 months to do so.

Paragraph 99 also noted NRS concerns on this being set as a form of precedent:

99. Ms Sinclair’s evidence was that the scope for future requests for re-use could be vast, noting that there are 1800 organisations registered with the Community Archive and Heritage Group of the Archives and Records Association (UK and Ireland), 32 local authorities and trusts in Scotland and 10-15 large commercial genealogy website providers. Compliance with other requests would entail: the initial transfer of the information; ensuring, where necessary, the ongoing application of any relevant security and information governance standards to the information; the potential for enquiries back to NRS in relation to correction or amendment of the information; and establishing appropriate charges under RPSI to cover a reasonable return on investment, direct, indirect and overhead costs.

 

Ultimately the Tribunal made two findings in this appeal:

278. The Tribunal finds that the Request was a request for re-use within the meaning of RPSI. To that extent, the Decision Notice is not in accordance with the law, and to that extent the Appeal must be allowed.

This basically means that Ancestry was right to claim that its intended re-use of the NRS material was indeed within the definition of the RPSI.

279. The Tribunal finds that NRS’s exercise of its discretion to refuse the Request was not in breach of any requirement of RPSI. To that extent the Decision Notice is in accordance with the law, and the Appeal must be dismissed. To the extent that the Appellant relies on alleged infringements of public law in support of its Grounds of Appeal, those parts of the proceedings are struck out under Rule 8(2) of the Tribunal Rules.

In other words, the NRS did have a right to refuse Ancestry's request, because “Regulation 7(2) provides that a library, museum or archive holding intellectual property rights in a document may (my emphasis) permit re-use of that document”. 'May' also implies 'may not', and the NRS indeed had a lawful right to exercise its own discretion under RPSI to refuse the request, as provided for currently within statute.

With regards to future actions, the Tribunal noted that it had no powers to rule on what it termed a “public law challenge”, in this case whether the NRS should actually have a right in the first place to exercise discretion to refuse the request made by Ancestry. "We do not consider that the Tribunal has jurisdiction to determine the lawfulness in public law terms of NRS’s refusal of the Request" (para 271). Hence why there is likely to be a new action by Ancestry.

So that's the background to it all, but you can read the whole thing for yourself - just have a flask of coffee handy when you do, it is very long! And on the basis of what you read, you can come to a judgement about whether Ancestry is right to pursue the actions that it has so far taken.

I can't say that I have changed my mind on it.

Incidentally, with regards to FamilySearch's relationship in the past with the NRS, there was a detailed list of past agreements which may be of interest, summarised as follows:

  • 1951: agreement to microfilm old parochial registers and early Census records of Scotland
  • 1989: agreement to microfilm the Old Parochial Registers of Scotland, 1553-1854, producing a set of fully indexed data on computer output microfiche of the registers of baptisms, births and marriages for 1553 – 1854
  • 1989: 2nd agreement to microfilm the old parochial registers of the Church of Scotland, 1553-1854, the Scottish statutory registers of births, deaths and marriages, 1855-75, 1991 and 1891, the Annual Indexes to the statutory registers, 1855 – 1959, miscellaneous minor records, to 19th century and Scottish Census returns, 1841-1891, information from which could be added to its International Genealogical Index (the IGI).
  • 1993: agreement to microfilm the 1881 Scottish Census Returns
  • 1999: agreement to provide GSU personnel to a third party provider to digitise and index certain testamentary papers and wills of Scotland from 1500 – 1875 (I assume this was the Scottish Documents project)
  • 2003: agreement to digitise the Kirk Sessions Records.
  • 2006: agreement for the digitisation of the registers of Sasines, 1573-1901.

An interesting comment in paragraph 211 is that the NRS claims it is investigating the appearance of certain Scottish census records on the FamilySearch platform (the terms of the agreements note the microfilmed records are for use by LDS members only).

Chris

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Friday, 26 September 2025

Ancestry and the NRS - when the corporate genealogy world turns ugly

In almost twenty years working as a genealogist, I don't think I have ever been as angry as I was yesterday when I read about Ancestry's latest endeavour.

In a quite frankly appalling development, Ancestry (www.ancestry.co.uk) is taking the National Records of Scotland (www.nrscotland.gov.uk) to court in a bid to try to gain access to many of the records available on ScotlandsPeople (www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk). The story is at https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cy50gn5353zo.

Ancestry is doing this because the NRS has refused to enter into a financial agreement with the records platform, stating that it would cost the archive £3.7 million a year in lost revenue, I imagine because the need for the ScotlandsPeople platform would collapse. The Information Commissioner's Office actually sided with the NRS, but Ancestry has challenged this with a body I have never heard of based in London, called the General Regulatory Chamber. It's reported that the Tribunal has ruled that the NRS should be able to make the records available, but has also noted that it hasn't got the legal authority to compel it to do so**. So there will now be a separate hearing.

In the past, Ancestry has entered into many agreements with the National Archives (TNA) in England to digitise and host records, often with exclusivity periods, for example with past census releases. But those were entered into as the result of a decision by that archive to seek commercial involvement (TNA also regularly partners with TheGenealogist and FindmyPast).

The NRS holds its records in trust for me and the people of Scotland. If I was to challenge the NRS that it was not providing access to Crown copyright records that I felt it should open up, there would perhaps be a moral case to support the challenge, with my being a Scottish based taxpayer. And indeed, there is a mechanism to attempt to do so, the Freedom of Information (Scotland) Act, which I know various colleagues have attempted to use from time to time. 

But Ancestry, by contrast, is a multinational for-profit genealogy company. Its main interest is its shareholders, no matter how fluffy the language on its platform may be for hungry genealogists. The idea that it may feel that it has a right to demand access to records so that it can make them available on a for-profit basis is quite frankly shocking. 

If Ancestry succeeds here, which archive and country is next for its lawyers? 

I have many issues with the NRS, which in many ways I find to be opaque and antiquated when compared to other UK based national archives. I have often discussed them on this platform, and continue to stand by the various criticisms that I have levelled at the platform in the past. The lack of a subscription based model for access to its records is just one of these criticisms. On that basis alone, I can imagine many people around the world will be supporting Ancestry's demands. 

But this is a slippery slope. And as things stand just now, it is my sincere belief that Ancestry should back off (not the words I specifically want to use at this juncture, I have a few more that would be more appropriate!). From the reaction to this story on my Facebook page yesterday, Ancestry will certainly win few friends in Scotland with this action.

I'm absolutely disgusted. Good luck to the NRS in the legal proceedings.

UPDATE: ** In fact, that's not quite the case. Having now read through the judgment itself, the judge has found NRS was within its rights to refuse access, but that its description of what Ancestry wishes to do with the records is wrong. It has, however, noted that Ancestry can pursue as a point of law whether the NRS should have the right to allow exemptions to access in the first place. You can read more about the legal proceedings in my follow-up post at https://scottishgenes.blogspot.com/2025/09/more-on-legal-proceedings-by-ancestry.html.  

Chris 

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Thursday, 18 September 2025

Doors Open Day at the National Records of Scotland

From ScotlandsPeople (www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk) via email:

Visit us for Doors Open Day

Join us at National Records of Scotland for Doors Open Day on Saturday 27 September, 10:00-16:00. 

We have planned a fun day packed with exciting activities. 

Book a free ticket for one of our ‘Behind the scenes’ tours of General Register House. Walk in spaces will also be available on the day.

Drop-in for a free family history taster sessions with our expert team.

This will be the last day to visit our summer exhibition ‘Scots on the Move: Railways and Tourism in Victorian Scotland’.

For further details visit https://www.eventbrite.co.uk/e/doors-open-day-general-register-house-public-tours-tickets-1620249733569?aff=oddtdtcreator

Chris 

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Tuesday, 9 September 2025

Certificates postage delay from National Records of Scotland

The following notes is displaying on the ScotlandsPeople website (www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk), concerning orders for birth, marriage and death certificates from the National Records of Scotland (www.nrscotland.gov.uk):

Please note certificate ordering will be unavailable from 1pm on Friday 12th September 2025 and will resume again from 9am on Tuesday 16th September 2025 

Chris 

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Friday, 25 July 2025

2031 Scottish Census consultation

From the National Records of Scotland (www.nrscotland.gov.uk)

National Records of Scotland (NRS) has recommended a mandatory questionnaire-based census for Scotland in 2031. 

This recommendation has been made to Scottish Ministers on behalf of the Registrar General for Scotland and has been accepted in principle with further detailed plans to follow.  

Census data is vital for gathering a vast range of information about Scotland’s people which local and central government, the NHS and a range of other service providers and data users need. The 2022 census generated over a billion statistics including education, transport, religion, migration, and national identity.

Alison Byrne, NRS Chief Executive, said: "No other survey provides the richness and range of information that the census does, enabling governments and other public bodies to plan the services we all rely on, and telling the story of Scotland's people for generations to come.

“We look forward to hearing from data users across Scotland in the coming months. Their responses will help us to understand the best way to meet their needs as we plan for a 2031 census.”

The recommendation is for the census to be held at the same time as censuses in the rest of the UK. As with previous censuses NRS will work closely with other UK statistical bodies on the design and build of the census. 

For further details, including how to participate in the census consultation (open until Autumn 2025), please visit https://www.scotlandscensus.gov.uk/about/scotlands-census-2031/.

Chris

Order Researching Ancestral Crisis in Ireland in the UK at https://bit.ly/4jJWSEh. Also available - Tracing Your Belfast Ancestors, Tracing Your Irish Ancestors Through Land Records, Sharing Your Family History Online, Tracing Your Scottish Family History on the Internet, Tracing Your Irish Family History on the Internet (2nd ed), and Tracing Your Scottish Ancestry Through Church and State Records - to purchase, please visit https://bit.ly/ChrisPatonPSbooks. For purchase in tthe USA visit https://www.penandswordbooks.com. Further news published daily on The Scottish GENES Facebook page.